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In the last days of the Republic, its leaders became more and more corrupt. The Republic waged wars for personal gain and profit instead of protecting its citizens. The people had lost their moral way, with no direction. And so the downfall of the Republic was inevitable, so the conventional story of the last days of the Roman Republic went.

Julius Caesar, Gnaeus Pompeius, and Marcus Crassus struggled to best each other. In their thirst for power, they maneuvered and backstabbed each other. History allows us the benefit of knowing Caesar won. But his victory against the two senior members of the triumvirate was not so clear to their contemporaries. But then, why did Caesar’s own soldiers turn on him after the deaths of Pompey and Crassus?

Caesar's men had fought to save the Republic, not let it crumble at the hands of a tyrant. But the dictator Caesar committed many atrocities that showed his low opinions for the traditions of Rome and the venerable Senate. Caesar flaunted his position by not even rising up to meet a member of the Senate.

Worse, Caesar disrespected the high offices of Rome. In the Roman Republic, the most powerful elected officials were the consuls, of which there were only two. Consuls held military commands and could not be put on trial while they held that office. They served for only a year, and traditionally they could not serve in that capacity again until several years had lapsed. But at the end of one year during Caesar's reign, one of the consuls died the day before elections. Caesar, in his infinite wisdom, appointed a consul for a day according to his dictatorial powers instead of letting the office remain empty.

Caesar had turned the consulship into a lollipop, to be given at his whim.

And there lies the rise of Brutus, Cassius, and the other conspirators. They could not respect a man who so easily dismissed the familiar forms of ancient Rome. The rest is history (or a well read Shakespearan play).

It would be another Caesar who would learn from the lessons of Julius and turn the Republic into Empire.

In today's terms, I guess one of the lessons that the United States learned is that certain high level positions in the government should not be given away. Hence, the need for filibusters.

Date: 2005-05-31 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheesentoast.livejournal.com
I don't usually stick my nose into these things, but...

The positions that are being held up by filibuster are not being given away. The president did not appoint them. He merely appointed nominees who are to be voted up or down by those that LEGALLY have the power to do so. Simply because a larger number of the people who can vote on the nominations agree with the president in no way makes the nomination an illegal or incorrect usage of political power.

Most of the people I talked to about the presidential election were perfectly aware that which ever president we had this term would be making these kinds of decisions. The people vote in Bush. They voted in their senators knowing that this was going to be the decision before their elected leaders. Should this issue have come up last term when it was questionable if Bush should be in office, I might agree with you. But it didn't. He was firmly voted in.

He's doing his job. The senators are doing their job. Filibustering to keep them from doing what they were elected to do is hindering that.

Date: 2005-06-01 07:16 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] greybeta.livejournal.com
The story is more complex than that of course. I guess what I was getting at was that it's quite a bit more difficult to get your "own men" in our current democracy than it was in ancient Rome.

I know, I like making obvious points too much.

Date: 2005-06-01 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheesentoast.livejournal.com
I'm just saying - It's not a tyrrany until the leader is not following his own rules. While he has broken some of them, this is not one of those times. :)

Date: 2005-06-01 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] culculhen.livejournal.com
Filibustering is just as much part of a senators job as is a nomination and an up or down vote. there are a lot of checks and counter checks built in the system. singling one out saying that that one is hindering is putting the entire system in doubt, you can't have it both ways. If the president and the republican senators are doing there job so are the democratic senators.

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